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Sydney Thomas

Wow Anthony....hahahaha....you really blew this debate....sir. This is like watching a scene from the Real Housewives.

Carol Ericsson

Why is it necessary to have student led prayer in the public schools at all? I watched the show and Mr. Verdugo's explanation for this just didn't make sense.

Rene Samuel Gonzalez

I don't understand what the big deal is, if a student wants to pray or lead a group of students in prayer... who gets hurt? maybe a little more praying & sports and less gangs & drugs sounds good to me.

Lee Veal

Christian are always trying to weasel around the 'church/state' wall of separation. They try to come up with cleverly (usually stupidly) worded legislation to redefine 'prayer' as an 'inspirational message' or some other thinly veiled phrase to keep from calling a prayer, a prayer. What a bunch of hokum! Regardless of how well they word their prayer-in-public-schools legislation, all Bible-believing Christians should precluded themselves from participating in any publicly uttered prayer, legislated by the state or not. All they have to do is look into their own holy writ.

Matthew 6:5-9 (King James Version)
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name...
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Lord, Lord, you gave them eyes but they cannot read...
...or if they do read it, they give their old standby line, "You're taking that out of context..."

Strict literalists might say, "Well, it doesn't say anything about voluntary public school assemblies..." And they're right, it doesn't but in the time that these words were first written in their original language, there was NO such thing as public (secular gov't-funded) schools. There were ONLY church/religion-based schools.

I think "the corners of the streets" portion would include all publicly visible locations.

Note that the passage also says that it's the hypocrites who love to pray standing in the synagogues, that they may be seen of men. Today, that would even include standing and praying in churches "that they may be seen of men" (and women, of course, nowadays) because at the time when their savior supposedly said these words churches didn't even exist. Jesus did not found a single church, he was an itinerant preacher traveling the highways and byways to spread the religion that he lived not a religion about him.

Like the banners that adorned the courtroom during the 'Scopes Monkey Trial'... I would echo them and say, 'Christians Read Your Bible!'

Lee


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